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By: kazakhstan.neweurasia.net » Blog Archive » Theories abound

kazakhstan.neweurasia.net » Blog Archive » Theories abound — Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:36:25 +0000

[...] As Nathan rightly points out, it is rather unlikely that either President Nazarbayev or his daughter were directly involved in the w murder: It certainly seems that President Nazarbaev has extremely strong disincentives for allowing the murder of opposition politicians even with plausible deniability, let alone plotting them himself. [...]

By: KZBlog

KZBlog — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 04:29:07 +0000

oops meant to say Utembayev not Orenbayev!!
Orenbayev is untainted by this, that was an honest mistake because the names sound similair!

By: KZBlog

KZBlog — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 04:26:47 +0000

Things are a little to hot for me to put in my opinions on this on the blog, but there are two words on the street:
1) Sarsenbayev was one of the people who divided the opposition, founding Real Ak Zhol. After a remarkably unsucessful presidential election, the opposition may have wanted to eliminate trouble-makers.

2) The speaker of the senate is the 2nd person in KZ, if the President dies or is impeached, he becomes President. Now he is being discredited by association with Orenbayev (who is powerful but an intellectual, a civil servant, a policy maker, not a frontlines political guy).
The speaker is forced to resign in the controversy, and someone who wants to be President steps into the office????

By: Kuda

Kuda — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 05:03:09 +0000

I think that it goes high up simply as the government network is so interconnected. If the top brass didn’t know about the planning they certainly know about who ordered it – I doubt we will see any real answers.

I feel that Nazarbaeva’s disagreements with her father are rather false; aimed at creating an ‘independent’ identity. I don’t think that she really differs from him and doubt that she could orchestrate anything high-level without him knowing.

By: Nathan

Nathan — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 04:38:45 +0000

And with my magical editorial powers, that is now what you’ve actually now said!

I kind of got the impression that’s what you meant as I read through the comment.

By: Narcogen

Narcogen — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 04:36:52 +0000

Damnit, I meant “the only thing less credible”.

By: Narcogen

Narcogen — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 04:26:04 +0000

I’ll say this: the only thing less credible than the idea that members of the administration would plan and execute such an attack when suspicion would clearly fall on them is the allegation that elements of the opposition would kill one of the best of its own solely for the purpose of discrediting the sitting president.

The opposition is already divided, and any hint that these acts could be traced back to any significant part of the opposition would so thoroughly discredit it as to make it completely ineffectual. (Some believe it already is.)

The idea that the opposition could suborn security officers for the paltry sum cited is patently ludicrous. Very likely an even more attractive reward could have been had by those approached by turning them in to the authorities.

Nathan, you’re right to be surprised. I am also surprised at how brazen and how bold this is. The establishment’s explanation of the source and motive of this act is vague and scarcely believable by anyone here. Events have moved with a quickness rarely seen in anything involving the government.

The establishment clearly believes its power base now so unassailably strong that there is no reason not to clear the board of all annoyances with no compunctions whatsoever, and that is frightening.

By: Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » Kazakhstan: Investigation Heats Up

Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:17:04 +0000

[...] Registan.net notes that things seem to be heating up in Kazakhstan in the investigation of the murder of an opposition leader. The head of the Senate administration has been arrested in connection with the murder, and the opposition is calling for investigation of the president’s daughter and her husband. [...]