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		<title>By: blog.neweurasia.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mongolia Protests</title>
		<link>http://www.registan.net/index.php/2006/01/12/protests-in-mongolia-2/comment-page-1/#comment-120625</link>
		<dc:creator>blog.neweurasia.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mongolia Protests</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 02:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The blogosphere has a lot of news on the protests in Mongolia. Nathan&#8217;s two posts, here and here, link to the most relevant stories and analyse what&#8217;s behind events in Ulan Bator. Tom Terry has the latest update, saying that the parliament voted to dissolve the government yesterday. Both blogs will surely have more to follow up. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The blogosphere has a lot of news on the protests in Mongolia. Nathan&#8217;s two posts, here and here, link to the most relevant stories and analyse what&#8217;s behind events in Ulan Bator. Tom Terry has the latest update, saying that the parliament voted to dissolve the government yesterday. Both blogs will surely have more to follow up. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Joyce</title>
		<link>http://www.registan.net/index.php/2006/01/12/protests-in-mongolia-2/comment-page-1/#comment-113913</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Joyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Nathan,
	Greetings!  My name is Mary Joyce and I am the Editor in Chief of DemoBlog, a new blog chronicling democracy struggles around the world. I\’m covering the the Mongolia protests and have re-posted a couple of local blog posts, some links, and some photos. Registan seems to be a clearinghouse for protest information, so I just thought I\’d let you know, in case you\’d like to link to me.
	Very Best,
Mary
	PS: I\’ve been reading Registan in order to keep abreast of Central Asia developments and you guys are doing a really great job.
	PPS: I almost met you at the GV conference in London, which I attended on behalf of DemoBlog, but you didn\’t come.  Maybe next time…
	 Mary Joyce
 Editor in Chief
 DemoBlog
 site: www.demologue.com
 e-mail: marycjoyce@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Nathan,<br />
	Greetings!  My name is Mary Joyce and I am the Editor in Chief of DemoBlog, a new blog chronicling democracy struggles around the world. I\’m covering the the Mongolia protests and have re-posted a couple of local blog posts, some links, and some photos. Registan seems to be a clearinghouse for protest information, so I just thought I\’d let you know, in case you\’d like to link to me.<br />
	Very Best,<br />
Mary<br />
	PS: I\’ve been reading Registan in order to keep abreast of Central Asia developments and you guys are doing a really great job.<br />
	PPS: I almost met you at the GV conference in London, which I attended on behalf of DemoBlog, but you didn\’t come.  Maybe next time…<br />
	 Mary Joyce<br />
 Editor in Chief<br />
 DemoBlog<br />
 site: <a href="http://www.demologue.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.demologue.com</a><br />
 e-mail: <a href="mailto:marycjoyce@gmail.com">marycjoyce@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: bayarmaa</title>
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		<dc:creator>bayarmaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2006 16:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read the UBpost.com newspaper in Englsih.
thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the UBpost.com newspaper in Englsih.<br />
thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Nomad</title>
		<link>http://www.registan.net/index.php/2006/01/12/protests-in-mongolia-2/comment-page-1/#comment-113380</link>
		<dc:creator>Nomad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2006 16:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are some additional information, which I got from a Mongolian website. 
1. The head of the MPRP is not the president of Mongolia, instead the former mayor if the UB city Mr. M. Enkhbold
2. The head of the Democrat Party is not the prime minister Elbegdorj, instead Mr. Gonchigdorj.
Also, the 10 ministries who resigned from their posts are all members of the MPRP,which gives a thought that the MPRP managed this resignation in order to get rid of Elbegdorj, the democrat one. The government has 18 ministries, therefore by the law of the 50% of the ministries resigned then the government should be disolved. That is the main trick here. 
Hope this is helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some additional information, which I got from a Mongolian website.<br />
1. The head of the MPRP is not the president of Mongolia, instead the former mayor if the UB city Mr. M. Enkhbold<br />
2. The head of the Democrat Party is not the prime minister Elbegdorj, instead Mr. Gonchigdorj.<br />
Also, the 10 ministries who resigned from their posts are all members of the MPRP,which gives a thought that the MPRP managed this resignation in order to get rid of Elbegdorj, the democrat one. The government has 18 ministries, therefore by the law of the 50% of the ministries resigned then the government should be disolved. That is the main trick here.<br />
Hope this is helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To clear up some of the confusion: The MPRP made the move to outst Elbegdorj after a member of the democratic coalition defected and joined the MPRP last week. That bumped the MPRP from 37 seats to 38, just one shy of the constitutional majority needed to form a new government without a coalition. I.E., all the MPRP has to do is get one more defector, or build a &quot;coalition&quot; with one member of parliament to gain the legal advantage to form a new government on its own. Thus, today, members of opposition parties were swearing up and down that they would never join the MPRP&#039;s new government.

Mongolia&#039;s constitution requires the dissolution of the government if half or more of the PM&#039;s cabinet resigns. Thus, when the MPRP members of the cabinet resigned, it effectively forced Elbegdorj out, who, frankly, was not able to be effective leading a 50/50 split in the cabinet anyway. The fact that the MPRP wants to retake the Prime Ministership is certainly no secret. Granted, Elbegdorj may be Prime Minister, but everyone pretty well understands who really runs the country: President Enkhbayar.

Certainly the MPRP is very smooth and smart, and they know exactly what they are doing. Elbegdorj&#039;s chances of remaining in power are slim to none. The MPRP may have trouble getting one more member of parliament to side with them, but it may not matter - the democratic coalition is so fractured that they cannot put up effective resistance anyway.

As for corruption and the other issues, there may be a lot of triggers (mining rights, profits, pensioners issues, public transpoprtation, economy, etc) but the bottom line is this is a power struggle for the future of the nation. The MPRP has been a spoiler in the democratic government for 2 years - no secret - but it&#039;s not like the dems have proven themselves effective and strong leaders anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clear up some of the confusion: The MPRP made the move to outst Elbegdorj after a member of the democratic coalition defected and joined the MPRP last week. That bumped the MPRP from 37 seats to 38, just one shy of the constitutional majority needed to form a new government without a coalition. I.E., all the MPRP has to do is get one more defector, or build a &#8220;coalition&#8221; with one member of parliament to gain the legal advantage to form a new government on its own. Thus, today, members of opposition parties were swearing up and down that they would never join the MPRP&#8217;s new government.</p>
<p>Mongolia&#8217;s constitution requires the dissolution of the government if half or more of the PM&#8217;s cabinet resigns. Thus, when the MPRP members of the cabinet resigned, it effectively forced Elbegdorj out, who, frankly, was not able to be effective leading a 50/50 split in the cabinet anyway. The fact that the MPRP wants to retake the Prime Ministership is certainly no secret. Granted, Elbegdorj may be Prime Minister, but everyone pretty well understands who really runs the country: President Enkhbayar.</p>
<p>Certainly the MPRP is very smooth and smart, and they know exactly what they are doing. Elbegdorj&#8217;s chances of remaining in power are slim to none. The MPRP may have trouble getting one more member of parliament to side with them, but it may not matter &#8211; the democratic coalition is so fractured that they cannot put up effective resistance anyway.</p>
<p>As for corruption and the other issues, there may be a lot of triggers (mining rights, profits, pensioners issues, public transpoprtation, economy, etc) but the bottom line is this is a power struggle for the future of the nation. The MPRP has been a spoiler in the democratic government for 2 years &#8211; no secret &#8211; but it&#8217;s not like the dems have proven themselves effective and strong leaders anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: yan</title>
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		<dc:creator>yan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My impression was that the MPRP&#039;s action is more about personal interests than anything political. And IMO that&#039;s also what drove people into the streets: The feeling that politicians and parties seem to regard the state primary as a means to further their own interests, not the other way &#039;round. 

I don&#039;t even think that the protesters necessarily support the old government - the parties are actually not that different. Not long ago, one of the movements behind yesterday&#039;s demonstrations said that things in Mongolia can&#039;t get any better with the current system anyway. I thought it&#039;s a protest against the party&#039;s egoism rather than against its power grab.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My impression was that the MPRP&#8217;s action is more about personal interests than anything political. And IMO that&#8217;s also what drove people into the streets: The feeling that politicians and parties seem to regard the state primary as a means to further their own interests, not the other way &#8217;round. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even think that the protesters necessarily support the old government &#8211; the parties are actually not that different. Not long ago, one of the movements behind yesterday&#8217;s demonstrations said that things in Mongolia can&#8217;t get any better with the current system anyway. I thought it&#8217;s a protest against the party&#8217;s egoism rather than against its power grab.</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mongolia: Protest and Uncertainty</title>
		<link>http://www.registan.net/index.php/2006/01/12/protests-in-mongolia-2/comment-page-1/#comment-113367</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mongolia: Protest and Uncertainty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Protesters have seized the headquarters of the Mongolian People&#8217;s Revolutionary Party after its members at the head of government ministries resigned, sending the government into chaos. Chris Miller offers valuable background and explanation, while yan and Registan.net have more on the protests. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Protesters have seized the headquarters of the Mongolian People&#8217;s Revolutionary Party after its members at the head of government ministries resigned, sending the government into chaos. Chris Miller offers valuable background and explanation, while yan and Registan.net have more on the protests. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2006 01:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a little confused as well at first. I was about to refer you &lt;a href=&quot;http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/globalvoices/2006/01/12/mongolia-government-collapse/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, but that doesn&#039;t seem to clear it up exactly either.

What people appear to be upset about is that the resignation of the MPRP ministers seems to be the first step in an attempt to remove the current prime minister and replace him with one of their own members. After the election, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.registan.net/?p=3776&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;neither party could form a government&lt;/a&gt; and had to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.registan.net/?p=3971&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;form a grand coalition&lt;/a&gt;. I don&#039;t know much about the corruption story, but people &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.registan.net/?p=5097&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;have been concerned for a while&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a little confused as well at first. I was about to refer you <a href="http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/globalvoices/2006/01/12/mongolia-government-collapse/" rel="nofollow">here</a>, but that doesn&#8217;t seem to clear it up exactly either.</p>
<p>What people appear to be upset about is that the resignation of the MPRP ministers seems to be the first step in an attempt to remove the current prime minister and replace him with one of their own members. After the election, <a href="http://www.registan.net/?p=3776" rel="nofollow">neither party could form a government</a> and had to <a href="http://www.registan.net/?p=3971" rel="nofollow">form a grand coalition</a>. I don&#8217;t know much about the corruption story, but people <a href="http://www.registan.net/?p=5097" rel="nofollow">have been concerned for a while</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Hoft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Hoft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2006 01:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the news, Nathan.  I appreciate the links you have provided.  I am a bit confused in that the corrupt party officials resigned and this upset the people? I am not sure I get that.  It will be interesting to follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the news, Nathan.  I appreciate the links you have provided.  I am a bit confused in that the corrupt party officials resigned and this upset the people? I am not sure I get that.  It will be interesting to follow.</p>
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		<title>By: Publius Pundit - Blogging the democratic revolution</title>
		<link>http://www.registan.net/index.php/2006/01/12/protests-in-mongolia-2/comment-page-1/#comment-113235</link>
		<dc:creator>Publius Pundit - Blogging the democratic revolution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nathan Hamm is noting some interesting political developments in the most democratic country of Central Asia, which has culminated in several thousand people protesting.    Robert Mayer @ 3:06 pm &#124; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Nathan Hamm is noting some interesting political developments in the most democratic country of Central Asia, which has culminated in several thousand people protesting.    Robert Mayer @ 3:06 pm | [...]</p>
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