Comments on: Additional Updates http://www.registan.net/index.php/2005/05/21/additional-updates/ Central Asia News -- All Central Asia, All The Time Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:56:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: RS http://www.registan.net/index.php/2005/05/21/additional-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-19569 RS Mon, 23 May 2005 11:21:53 +0000 http://www.registan.net/?p=5344#comment-19569 I think that Global Voices needs to correct their statement that "Nathan at Registan.net said that Typepad blogs are now blocked." Nathan actually correctly reported that "access to Typepad appears to be blocked in Uzbekistan", emphasis should be placed on the word "appears". I hope GV understands the journalistic responsibilities here. As a blogger in Uzbekistan, I can now report that it is again possible to blog from my office in Tashkent. I think that Global Voices needs to correct their statement that “Nathan at Registan.net said that Typepad blogs are now blocked.” Nathan actually correctly reported that
“access to Typepad appears to be blocked in
Uzbekistan”, emphasis should be placed on the
word “appears”. I hope GV understands the
journalistic responsibilities here. As a blogger in Uzbekistan, I can now report that it is again possible to blog from my office in Tashkent.

]]> By: Global Voices Online»Blog Archive » Monday World Blog Roundup http://www.registan.net/index.php/2005/05/21/additional-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-19568 Global Voices Online»Blog Archive » Monday World Blog Roundup Mon, 23 May 2005 05:28:14 +0000 http://www.registan.net/?p=5344#comment-19568 [...] Tunisian Bloggers’ Meetup. CENTRAL ASIA: Nathan at Registan.net says Typepad blogs are now blocked in Uzbekistan. EAST A [...] [...] Tunisian Bloggers’ Meetup. CENTRAL ASIA: Nathan at Registan.net says Typepad blogs are now blocked in Uzbekistan. EAST A [...]

]]> By: Dzhanibek http://www.registan.net/index.php/2005/05/21/additional-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-19562 Dzhanibek Sun, 22 May 2005 10:09:19 +0000 http://www.registan.net/?p=5344#comment-19562 And here's an excerpt from an article by Mikhail Zygar published on Kommersant on May 16th. (news about UzDaewoo were from Kommersant.com as well) As far as I know, this is the clearest explanation of the revolt's medium-term and short-term causes. (The long-term ones being poverty and the foolish economic policy of Mr. K, as Nathan and others pointed out) Zygar was in Andijon an spoke with Zainabitdinov on May 14th, the day after the uprising. --------------------- "To learn more about the ringleaders of the revolt, I went to see Saijakhon Zainabitdinov, a well known, and probably the only, human rights activist in Andijan. He was the lawyer for the Akromists when they were on trial. [...] Zainabitdinov told me that the Akromists were not actually involved in politics, but only charity and business. For example, one of them had a construction company that built a house for the regional governor, and all of the persecution against them started when the governor was replaced in Andijan. The new governor wanted to lay his lands on their business, so they laid charges against them under articles that allow confiscation of property. However, the human rights activist added that all the Akromists were very religious; they regarded Akrom Yuldashev, who had already been in prison for six years, as their teacher. Yuldashev was also a well-known Andijan businessman. He was charged with religious extremism after he wrote the book The Road to Faith. “The charges were absurd, far-fetched. Their friends and relatives gathered at the courthouse right from the start of the trial in February. The parties finished their presentations on Wednesday, and the judge said that the time and place of sentencing would be announced separately. But according to my information, they read the Akromists' sentence right in the prison on Thursday. This is what pushed them to revolt.”" And here’s an excerpt from an article by Mikhail Zygar published on Kommersant on May 16th. (news about UzDaewoo were from Kommersant.com as well) As far as I know, this is the clearest explanation of the revolt’s medium-term and short-term causes. (The long-term ones being poverty and the foolish economic policy of Mr. K, as Nathan and others pointed out)
Zygar was in Andijon an spoke with Zainabitdinov on May 14th, the day after the uprising.
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“To learn more about the ringleaders of the revolt, I went to see Saijakhon Zainabitdinov, a well known, and probably the only, human rights activist in Andijan. He was the lawyer for the Akromists when they were on trial. [...]

Zainabitdinov told me that the Akromists were not actually involved in politics, but only charity and business. For example, one of them had a construction company that built a house for the regional governor, and all of the persecution against them started when the governor was replaced in Andijan. The new governor wanted to lay his lands on their business, so they laid charges against them under articles that allow confiscation of property. However, the human rights activist added that all the Akromists were very religious; they regarded Akrom Yuldashev, who had already been in prison for six years, as their teacher. Yuldashev was also a well-known Andijan businessman. He was charged with religious extremism after he wrote the book The Road to Faith.

“The charges were absurd, far-fetched. Their friends and relatives gathered at the courthouse right from the start of the trial in February. The parties finished their presentations on Wednesday, and the judge said that the time and place of sentencing would be announced separately. But according to my information, they read the Akromists’ sentence right in the prison on Thursday. This is what pushed them to revolt.””

]]> By: Dzhanibek http://www.registan.net/index.php/2005/05/21/additional-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-19560 Dzhanibek Sun, 22 May 2005 09:48:36 +0000 http://www.registan.net/?p=5344#comment-19560 A pretty important piece of news... Daewoo Motor Quits Uzbekistan “UzDaewooavto” (Asaka, Andijan Region) has resumed the output of cars which was stopped on May 13, the first day of the uprising. [...] Meanwhile, the “Uzavtosanoat” Company signed an agreement last week with the creditor committee of the Korean Daewoo Motor, on payment and transfer to Uzbekistan of 49% of the “UzDaewooavto” shares which are owned by the Korean company (another 51% of the company's shares belong to the government of Uzbekistan). The total cost of the shares is not disclosed but it is rumoured that the agreement is quite favourable for the Uzbek side. After acquiring the assets of Daewoo Motor by the American concern General Motors in 2002, the Korean company does not take part in managing “UzDaewooavto”. [...] A pretty important piece of news…

Daewoo Motor Quits Uzbekistan

“UzDaewooavto” (Asaka, Andijan Region) has resumed the output of cars which was stopped on May 13, the first day of the uprising. [...]

Meanwhile, the “Uzavtosanoat” Company signed an agreement last week with the creditor committee of the Korean Daewoo Motor, on payment and transfer to Uzbekistan of 49% of the “UzDaewooavto” shares which are owned by the Korean company (another 51% of the company’s shares belong to the government of Uzbekistan). The total cost of the shares is not disclosed but it is rumoured that the agreement is quite favourable for the Uzbek side. After acquiring the assets of Daewoo Motor by the American concern General Motors in 2002, the Korean company does not take part in managing “UzDaewooavto”. [...]

]]> By: RS http://www.registan.net/index.php/2005/05/21/additional-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-19559 RS Sun, 22 May 2005 06:20:22 +0000 http://www.registan.net/?p=5344#comment-19559 Typepad seems to be working now from my office, but thanks for posting what would have been my entry for yesterday. RS Typepad seems to be working now from my office, but thanks for posting what would have been my entry for yesterday.

RS

]]> By: Nathan http://www.registan.net/index.php/2005/05/21/additional-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-19479 Nathan Sat, 21 May 2005 20:36:25 +0000 http://www.registan.net/?p=5344#comment-19479 OK, I'm much cooler with you now. OK, I’m much cooler with you now.

]]> By: Phil Bailey http://www.registan.net/index.php/2005/05/21/additional-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-19478 Phil Bailey Sat, 21 May 2005 20:32:54 +0000 http://www.registan.net/?p=5344#comment-19478 Nathan, apologies for totally misunderstanding that sentence and barking at you without cause. I deserve the dunces cap for that howler. Nathan, apologies for totally misunderstanding that sentence and barking at you without cause. I deserve the dunces cap for that howler.

]]> By: Nathan http://www.registan.net/index.php/2005/05/21/additional-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-19476 Nathan Sat, 21 May 2005 19:51:43 +0000 http://www.registan.net/?p=5344#comment-19476 Phil, first off, read the whole sentence. I said the police were pests. I could leave it at that, call you out for the beginning reader you are, but I'll say more. No, the aid was not "shifted." State cut, and DoD added. Technically, that's not a shift, that's one agency undermining another. That's something I have been complaining about for a while, saying that agencies need to get on one page and not undermine each others' work. Phil, first off, read the whole sentence. I said the police were pests. I could leave it at that, call you out for the beginning reader you are, but I’ll say more.

No, the aid was not “shifted.” State cut, and DoD added. Technically, that’s not a shift, that’s one agency undermining another. That’s something I have been complaining about for a while, saying that agencies need to get on one page and not undermine each others’ work.

]]> By: Phil Bailey http://www.registan.net/index.php/2005/05/21/additional-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-19471 Phil Bailey Sat, 21 May 2005 16:35:56 +0000 http://www.registan.net/?p=5344#comment-19471 You report a "cut" in aid last year. Isn't it the case that the funds were simply shifted from State to DoD and that the sums disbursed were actually greater than originally intended? Why, yes, it is. $18 million was cut when State decertified Uzbekistan in July '04. Richard Meyers went ahead and granted $21 million in August of the same year from DoD. So, your talk of "cuts" is mere sophistry, though it does function to cloud U.S. support for Karimov's terror regime. Finally, I must say that your description of people protesting against Karimov's fascist tyranny as "pests with nothing to do" is truly sickening. You report a “cut” in aid last year. Isn’t it the case that the funds were simply shifted from State to DoD and that the sums disbursed were actually greater than originally intended?

Why, yes, it is. $18 million was cut when State decertified Uzbekistan in July ‘04. Richard Meyers went ahead and granted $21 million in August of the same year from DoD.

So, your talk of “cuts” is mere sophistry, though it does function to cloud U.S. support for Karimov’s terror regime.

Finally, I must say that your description of people protesting against Karimov’s fascist tyranny as “pests with nothing to do” is truly sickening.

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